Robyn Maynard, author of Policing Black Lives, joins us for a conversation about policing. People are not just marginalize, they are pushed violently to the margins and policing is one way that this is done. With the release of prisoners because of the risk of Covid-19 in prisons, we are seeing a glimpse of what is possible. That we can truly imagine a world without policing.

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